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Published on August 3, 2007 By KarmaGirl In Current Events

Being that I manage HR where I work, I get to see all the "news" about minimum wages (both in the state and federal).  Our State's minimum wage has always freaked me out at how high it has gotten, but the current changes in FEDERAL minimum wage has me down right fearful.

Why?  Because it is now becoming a living wage.  Either companies will quit hiring non-skilled workers (where will they work?) or they will start using their non-us factories more.

If you don't know the amounts, don't worry, I'm about to give you the stats.

In 1997, the Federal (don't confuse this with your States, which you may not even have, or it may be higher) the minimum wage was set at $5.15.  As of July 24th of this year, it was raised to $5.85. No big deal- that's only a bit over 13% over the course of 10 year.  Now, this is where I start to worry- the *second* step will raise the minimum wage to $6.55 on July 24, 2008 (12% over ONE year) and the Third step will raise the minimum wage to $7.25 on July 24, 2009 (10% more).

Now, I don't know about you, but I doubt that I will see raises like that during that time.  However, you can bet that cost of living will rise since it will cost business more to employ unskilled workers.

I always looked at minimum wage as the wage that you paid people that were doing completely unskilled jobs (bagging groceries, stocking shelves, collecting carts, making photocopies, packing boxes, etc.)  ~$5.50 an hour seems like a good pay for that type of labor.  But $7.25????  That's not minimum, that is "living".

When I started the job that I have now, I started out answering phones, taking orders, doing data entry, shipping orders and managing the office.  I made $7.00 an hour, and I had a lot of responsibility. 

What is $7.00 per hour, anyway?  It is $14,560 per year.  After tax, that is $11,503, which is $958 per month.  Can you live on it?  You bet....

This is what my living cost me back then (1995) per month:
apartment: $410
car payment: $120
Insurances: $110 (car and renters)
food: $175
phone: $30
Gas: $40
Misc.: $25
Total: $910 - $48 to spare- that's what I got for being over minimum wage!

Yep, it was tight, but it covered my NEEDS (something that a lot of Americans seem to have a hard time separating from "wants").

So, what about $7.25 an hour 12 years later?
That's $15,080 per year.  After taxes: $11,914 (per month: $993)
Same Apartment: $470 (checked on their rates to have the actual number)
car payment: $120
Insurances: $115 (car and renters)
food: $175
phone: $30 (except now it would be mobile!)
Gas: $55
Misc.: $25
Total: $990 - only $3.00 left over- but needs are still paid for...no skills required.

Now, before somebody says "but,that can only support one person!"  I shall say- it's meant to.  If you have a couple- both of you will have to work, and will be better off (rent won't be higher, as an example).  Have a kid?  Alternate shifts.  Sure, it isn't ideal, but it will pay the bills.

So, we no longer have a real minimum wage- we actually have a living wage.  One that many will find "good enough" and never strive to do better.  Does this help our country in any way?  I don't think so.  I think it will hurt it in many ways, especially if this trend continues.

 


Comments (Page 5)
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on Aug 06, 2007
remember there is only one group of people that benefit from raising the minimum wage. and it isn't the people making minimum wage.
on Aug 06, 2007
I didn't think there was any group of people that benefit from raising the minimum wage.

I think there needs to be a minimum wage, and I also think it should be tied to the same increase we have on the tax code. It should increase every year based on that. It would avoid the huge jumps we seem to have now and it would stay tied to inflation.

But, then again, that might just cause a spiral effect and give us super-inflation.
on Aug 06, 2007
I didn't think there was any group of people that benefit from raising the minimum wage.


Unions. That is why it was created. To eliminate the competition to them. By making unskilled labor as expensive as skilled labor, only a fool would hire an unskilled mason instead of a skilled one at the same price.
on Aug 06, 2007
remember there is only one group of people that benefit from raising the minimum wage. and it isn't the people making minimum wage.


politicians because it makes them look like they care. i remember the last minimum wage vote. not the one that just passed. the one before that that didn't pass. i was watching cspan. they voted on the same bill twice. everyone that voted for it the first time voted against it the second time. the only thing that remand the same was that it failed both times.
on Aug 06, 2007
The raising of the minimum wage is only going to get more jobs sent to a place without it, or replaced by machines. But, I'm guessing most people who make minimum wage don't understand that. So yeah, great idea, raise the unemployment rate and increase the job export market. Even so, if they left the minimum wage alone at this point, it would not hurt anybody. At least we have one there, and we needed it at one point. Not anymore, though, now it can only hurt.

If your time isn't worth that much, now you'll never get a job. If it is, then you would have been hired anyway.
on Aug 06, 2007
I think one of the main issues that's not addressed here is that most people who are just entering the workforce (ages 18-21) have absolutely _no_ idea about how to manage money. How will that affect minimum wage and the future? Heck, I barely know how to manage my money, and I have college loans hanging above my head. All I know is that I need to get a job ASAP out of college. I at least know enough to not impulse buy, make a list before going grocery shopping, and put money in my savings account. It worries me that most people my age (I'm 19!) don't even THINK about stuff like that.
on Aug 08, 2007

Raising the minimum wage only helps those getting it as long as it takes to raise prices to compensate for tha cost of paying that higher wage.  I assume about a nanosecond after the implementation date.

It's a feel-good fix for a non-existant problem.  Let a free market determine worth for unskilled labor just like it does for skilled labor.  That seems to have worked for most of the folks posting here.

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