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Published on August 18, 2004 By KarmaGirl In Diet

I decided to join eDiets.  I actually am following Weight Watchers, but eDiets has a nice forum and I wanted some new recipes.  I like to eat mainly Vegetarian (and it's hard to get new recipes) so that is the meal plan that I opted for.  When my "meal plan" screen came up, this is what I got:


So, by this, chicken and beef are vegetarian.  Who knew?  LOL

Anyway, it was some bug.  They have "live" chat who were quick to fix it.  They said that there are "options" with vegetarian.  However, they had no response to "how can beef be a vegetarian option?"  And, they fixed it so that it is now correct.

Gave me a good laugh for the day, though!


Comments
on Aug 18, 2004
...intelligent folks there, I see.

I would even question the inclusion of frozen yogurt, but could see that legitimately construed as an "option" at least
on Aug 18, 2004

I chose the "lacto-ovo" vegetarian option (they also have vegan, lacto, ovo), so the yogurt made sense.  So did the Banana thing.  But the Chicken and beef seemed a bit odd

It was just too funny not to share.

on Aug 18, 2004
Are you a vegan?
on Aug 18, 2004
The only thing that I was thinking about is that they were featuring a menu item that tasted like beef, but was actually some sort of soy-based product instead. I never really got that kind of thinking, though, although I do understand there are those that refrain from meat products from an ethical stand-point and those from a health-perspective. (less fat, etc.)
on Aug 18, 2004

Are you a vegan?

No

The only thing that I was thinking about is that they were featuring a menu item that tasted like beef, but was actually some sort of soy-based product instead.

That's what I thought at first, too.  But, it wasn't.  The "recipe" called for 4 oz of sirloin.  The chicken meal was also a standard lean cuisine (I don't think that you can get veg options in lean cuisine)

I do like Boca burgers and MorningStar Farms "Chic'n" patties.  I don't really expect them to be like "meat" though.  Which is fine because I don't really like meat.  I just really don't like meat.  It's not really an ethical thing....but I live around farms and I see where meat comes from...not sure I want to eat it (especially chickens....there is a reason they are called "fowl"....)

on Aug 18, 2004
KarmaGirl: This is hilarious!

I just really don't like meat. It's not really an ethical thing....


I am so with you there. I have no problem with eating meat other than the fact that it tastes completely nasty. I am curious, does your family eat the same things you do (no meat) or do you prepare another meal for them entirely? This has been a difficult balancing act for me because my husband and my kids love meat.

on Aug 18, 2004

I cook meat for them if they want it, but many weeks we eat no meat at all or have only fish.  My daughter's favorite snack is bell peppers and hummus (or baba ganooj- which she knows the difference of) so they are fine eating what I eat most of the time.  People find it odd that my daughter will choose broccoli over french fries, especially since she is only 5 years old.

A lot of times I can just substitute food.  I'll make spaghetti and save some sauce for myself before eating meat, or have a Boca burger instead of a real one, or use a soy chicken.  Have you tried the soy chicken strips?  They work really well in fajitas.

I also have a lot of recipes that are meatless and are not like a lot of recipes that try to be like the meat version.  I find that those recipes work out best.  A lot of times I'll make a meatless recipe and my husband and daughter will eat it as a side dish with whatever meat they eat. My husband actually requests some of the meatless meals and soups that I make. Tonight we had MorningStar farms "chic'n" patties.  I put mine in my salad, as did my daughter (yep, she loves salad).  I don't think that she ever thought about the fact that it wasn't "meat".  I figure she can make up her own mind on meat as she gets older.

I am *not* a strict vegetarian, though.  I will eat meat, I just don't prefer to.  I'm not about to ask people to make sure that they have something for me to eat at their BBQ for instance.  But, given the choice, I'll take the meatless option if there is one. 

All the soy options that are available make it easier.  The frozen patties are wonderful since you can just microwave them in 3 minutes.  They also are a lot better at texture, so the "meat eaters" seem to like them more.  With all the health benefits of soy, it just makes sense to eat that way.  I was reading a thing on how much it takes to raise a cow.  Per pound, if we used soy instead of meat, we would have about 8 pounds of soy products per pound of cow (not pound of meat, but of cow).  So, it is more resourceful to eat soy than meat.

on Aug 18, 2004
KarmaGirl: Thanks for your response. I used to prepare two separate meals, feeling guilty if my family had to eat something meatless, but we have gotten to a point where I only prepare meat a couple of times a week and they are OK with it. I do try to find ways to make something that can be adapted so that I can have it without and they can have it with.

I am kind of strange in that I do enjoy some meats (bacon and lean steak would be examples), so we can grill out and all be happy and that works well.

A lot of times I can just substitute food. I'll make spaghetti and save some sauce for myself before eating meat, or have a Boca burger instead of a real one, or use a soy chicken. Have you tried the soy chicken strips? They work really well in fajitas.


I have started doing this as well. I love pasta and do exactly what you mentioned. When I do fajitas I usually substitute bell peppers and onions or portobello mushrooms for the meat, but it does seem a little less . . . well, just less. I think maybe trying the soy strips might work for me. Do they actually taste like chicken? I have had Boca burgers and they are OK, but the more something tastes like meat (which is usually the aim of the folks selling it) the less I am able to enjoy it.

I also understand where you're coming from about eating with other families/people. I try to be adaptable and find something I can eat or I will simply eat later. At church dinner I always bring something meatless so that there is at least one thing there that I enjoy. I don't think it's polite or neccessary for me to make my food issues a burden on other people.

I'm glad to find someone out there with a bit of a similar situation! Thanks for the advice.

on Aug 18, 2004
I chose the "lacto-ovo" vegetarian option (they also have vegan, lacto, ovo), so the yogurt made sense. So did the Banana thing. But the Chicken and beef seemed a bit odd


I have actually heard a few doofuses define "lacto-ovo" as "anything that COMES FROM an egg; to which I am prone to ask: "How would you like your iguana? Bajed or grilled?"

That usually makes em realize how ridiculous that is (I know, I's a meanie...lol)"
on Aug 18, 2004
All the soy options that are available make it easier. The frozen patties are wonderful since you can just microwave them in 3 minutes. They also are a lot better at texture, so the "meat eaters" seem to like them more. With all the health benefits of soy, it just makes sense to eat that way. I was reading a thing on how much it takes to raise a cow. Per pound, if we used soy instead of meat, we would have about 8 pounds of soy products per pound of cow (not pound of meat, but of cow). So, it is more resourceful to eat soy than meat.


Be careful witrh the soy with your daughter, though. While I'm sure a reasonable amount is safe, too much can lead to early menarchy (onset of menstruation), and reproductive problems later in life, both because of the phyto (plant) estrogens in the soy.
on Aug 19, 2004
Hi,
Ive been a veggie all my life,having spat out all meaty things since childhood,my mother thought I was a pain in the arse and gave me a slice of cheese in place of the offending meat item....
However I am now a healthy fit mum of 2 and I still get treated like a faddy teenager by some.Yes I have tried eating it from time to time as I grew up knowing tastes change.
And I still dislike it.My mum in law of 12 years asks "are you still a veggie" every year at family do's as if I might grow out of it sometime!
Its just a preference after all,like disliking olives on your pizza,so I get a bit bored justifying my eating habits.
Many of my piss taking colleagues are obese and I ask them "have you ever met a fat vegetarian.?"
I know someone will put me straight on that one but it works for me......(.i think that a whole new blog subject....Im new here as if you didnt know)
But that attitude prevails and thinking wafer thin ham might be ok for a veggie will continue .......
on Aug 19, 2004
Many of my piss taking colleagues are obese and I ask them "have you ever met a fat vegetarian.?"


This is one reason I try to eat a largely veggie diet. In my struggle for weight control, I have discovered I have no problem keeping the weight down if I can subsist on a simple vegetarian diet. It's when I add meat that I have trouble losing.
on Aug 19, 2004

I think maybe trying the soy strips might work for me. Do they actually taste like chicken?

Well, kinda'.  I would say that they have more the texture of chicken than the taste.  They don't have a lot of taste on their own, but if you pan cook them with a bit of fajita seasoning then add them into the rest of the veggies for fajitas then they taste great.

Be careful witrh the soy with your daughter, though. While I'm sure a reasonable amount is safe, too much can lead to early menarchy

I have done *a lot* of research on soy.  Most of the "warnings" are quite insane.  To have "too much" soy (to the point of the plant based estrogen to effect you) a child would have to have about 6 glasses of soy milk, 3-4 soy burgers, and a block of tofu everyday.  Considering that my daughter drinks organic milk (she is allergic to regular milk, but that is a different topic) and I am lucky if she eats a whole soy patty a day, I'm pretty sure she will be OK.  (Hummus and Baba Ganooj are based on chic peas, not soy).  The Chinese have eaten a lot of soy for centuries and they have way less health problems than we do.

It's all in moderation.  If you go crazy with anything it will be bad for you.