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Published on January 26, 2005 By KarmaGirl In Misc

As I get older, I start pondering odd things.  I look at my daughter and wonder what the world will be like when she is my age.  It makes me quite sad when I realize that the Earth is going to be in pretty bad shape in 26 years from now if we don't do something (just look what has happened in the past 25 years).

I have began to ponder the Iroquois belief that "in our every deliberation, we must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations."

So, a few years ago I started changing the way I live.  I like cars, but I make sure now that my new cars get good mileage, and if they ever get the hybrids running right in a mid sized car, I will get one.  I started buying organic food, I recycle way more than I throw away, and I try to conserve energy.

The more I get into it, the more I realize that I am ignorant of the contents of many of the things that I use every day. 
Like: laundry detergent and dishwasher soap.

You may say: "Dude, they are just cleaning products".  That is what I used to think.  But, it's amazing what they really are.  Conventional laundry soap is petroleum based.  If each household were to switch out a 45 load box of conventional detergent with a box of plant based detergent, there would be enough petroleum to heat over 100,000 household for a year.  (Wrap your brain around that one).  Then, there is the "makes your whites whiter" claim.  It's not bleach that does it, so what is it?  (This is one that I had no clue of) It's actually called "optical brighteners" and they are made out of fluorescent compounds.  These compounds do not biodegrade, and there are many studies that show that they are harmful with extended exposure.....yet, they are in laundry detergent used to whiten those undershirts that are always on your skin...nice.

And, what about chlorine?  Chlorine kills all those bacteria and "body soil" as the ads claim.  Yep, it kills *all* bacteria, even the good kind.  It also kills the natural bacteria that naturally take care of wastes and return the useful nutrients to our soil.  Chlorine is the reason that we are getting algae plumes in our waterways which are killing off a lot of aquatic life.  Chlorine makes water "safe", right?  Well, it also has a byproduct when it reacts with natural contents of water.  One of those byproducts is called trihalomethane.  A common trihalomethane is chloroform, which has been linked to kidney, liver, and nervous system damage, as well as ......cancer. 

How about "dry cleaning"? It's not dry at all. Clothes are soaked in perchloroethylene, a toxic chemical that is massively volatile and has been linked to cancer, damage to the central nervous system, birth defects and short-term effects such as: nausea, dizziness and shortness of breath.  Perchloroethylene is *supposed* to evaporate while clothes are being dry cleaned, however, many times it doesn't.  It can stay in the clothes since they are often wrapped in plastic and it can take up to a week after you bring them home before all the gases escape from the clothes.

The more I find out about these things, the more paranoid I become.  I just bought some organic deodorant the other day.  I don't even know why I bought it.  Then I read on the label "contains no aluminum".  I thought that was "odd".  Then I started reading about a link between aluminum contact and diseases like Alzheimer's.  Ack.

It seems like our products that "make our life better" might actually be "making our life shorter".  But, that is merely my gut reaction.  I'm still learning


Comments
on Jan 26, 2005
If we all do our bit...even minimal, we can save what is left of our planet.
If we recycle bottles, plastic, paper,old clothing...the list goes on...... we help save something, be it a tree or a lake. It's something We all have to do together.
on Jan 26, 2005

Sometimes I think that you and I were separated at birth somehow.....I have been pondering the exact same thing recently.  I see mother earth being depleted of her natural resources, I see mankind poisoning purselves in the name of 'convienience'.  I've stopped using modern store bought cleaning products in favor of more traditional and 'greener' things, and when I do use modern stuff, I use less of it.  I made myself a promise that when the weather warms up and my back will allow it, I'm going to ride my bike to and from work and the store...basically, if it's a distance of less than 3 or 4 miles and I don't need to haul tons of grocery bags home, I'm using my bike.  I've started cutting plastic grocery bags into strips and knitting them into  bigger, more durable bags (I have the pattern if you'd like it), and I try to buy organic fruit, veggies and now dairy products as well.  I'm also having a 'green' burial, as you may have read about.

I want the earth to be able to sustain my children into their old age...and I think that if we start treating her right now, she might just be able to do just that.

on Jan 27, 2005

I've started cutting plastic grocery bags into strips and knitting them into bigger, more durable bags

You could start a business with that!  I have a load of bags that I don't know what to do with (I use them in my small trash cans, but I usually just empty that into the one bag that we put out each week)  Luckily, I'm not gathering many anymore.  I switched to taking my own cloth bags to bring home my groceries.  The stores that I go to now give me back $.10 per bag that I don't use of theirs.  It's not much per week, but it will eventually pay for the bags and I don't have bags left over that I don't know what to do with.

I want the earth to be able to sustain my children into their old age...and I think that if we start treating her right now, she might just be able to do just that.

I have a hard time looking at my daughter and trying to imagine what her world will be like when she is my age.  I hope that it isn't anything like what I can imagine.  It makes me want to figure out how to buy a hundred acres or so in the UP (the upper peninsula of Michigan) as a reserve for myself.  I also worry about what all the chemicals that she is around all the time could be doing to her long term....well, I worry what they will be doing to me, too.

I refuse to use antibacterial cleaner.  I buy soap that does not have it in there, or use good old water and vinegar to clean with (vinegar is great as a bleach alternative while doing laundry).  I finally found some vegetable based carpet cleaner.  I want to get sealant to seal our OSB floor when we get new carpet (which will be soon) and seal it then put natural fiber, untreated carpet over it. 

I have also been pondering solar panels for our house.  We currently have water heat that uses propane.  To heat our house to 68 degrees during the winter (well, 66 when we're not there) we currently spend $1750 a year in propane.  That is 1252 gallons of propane a year. (Ack)  With solar panels, we could use them to heat water to circulate in our house to heat it during the day and for hot water for bathing and stuff.  Then I am looking into an external log burner to heat it for the night.  That way we would just be using propane for cooking.  Unfortunately, solar panels and the log burner are expensive.  And, I'm not quite sure why our government doesn't give us a tax break or something if we start using better energy resources (well, if I lived in Cali they would, but that's because they don't have enough power to power all the homes).

Sometimes the world seems so off course to me that I'm not sure how we will ever get it back on track.

on Jan 27, 2005
Karma--

V. interesting article.

Here's a Link to a database of incentives for using renewable energy--I've linked it to the Michigan page. I havent really examined the Michigan stuff--but there might be some kind of incentive in there that would make it worthwhile!

Good luck.



on Jan 27, 2005

I havent really examined the Michigan stuff--but there might be some kind of incentive in there that would make it worthwhile!

If I were a corporation, there would be.  Michigan is not a very "green" state.  Just a few weeks ago they finally got together and started to get the big power suppliers to agree on how to handle surplus power (power that is generated from your solar panels that you don't use and sell back to the power company).  Northern Michigan is much better about solar power and wind electricity than the southern areas (where I am) so it's even hard finding a place to purchase from around here.

It's a bit sad, don't you think?  However, if I were in Cali, I could get an $8,000 credit to install a "typical" solar panel setup (which costs about double that).  Why don't all states do that?

I never understood why we didn't spend more time researching ways to use solar power.  It's just there waiting to be used, yet we rely on fossil fuels instead.

on Feb 03, 2005
This article wa an eye opener. I try to be somewhat socially responsible. I recycle and I do not throw away things that someone else can use. It makes me feel too guilty so I do make trips to Goodwill. It amazes me how much we accumulate. We just all have too much stuff and the simplicity movement makes so much sense. I am going to try to start a compost pile this year. I will have to start looking into switching to a plant based detergent. It's earth day every day.
on Feb 10, 2005
Wow, this is a big eye opener for me too. You know you hear these things but you really don't pay attention to them. I have kids and I do take care in what they eat and what we use, some of the time but not all of the time. Now, I'll definately be more careful. It's hard work following all this but it will be worth it in the end.
on Feb 10, 2005

I am 100% with you when it comes to green living. I am designing a greywater filter for our home to 1) reduce our water consumption, 2) reduce our sewage output and the resultant burden on the treatment plant. We're also putting gutters on our house and adding rainbarrels, and we walk the highways collecting aluminum cans when we are able.

Our five year goal is to produce all of our consumables (or the income to purchase new consumables, such as canning jars, etc) ourselves, both at our current house and on lots across the street we're trying to purchase. Our longterm goal is complete self sufficiency.

(PS: I linked to the article through mine. Thanks for the link).

on Feb 10, 2005

I have also been pondering solar panels for our house. We currently have water heat that uses propane. To heat our house to 68 degrees during the winter (well, 66 when we're not there) we currently spend $1750 a year in propane.

I've pondered solar panels, but at the moment it isn't very cost efficient. Where we're at, we may be able to produce some of our electricity off of a small wind turbine. I also can give you a very simple to make solar water heater (actually more of a preheater, but it does reduce the operating cost of the main heater), if you have room at the south side of your house and you're far enough out to not have to worry about stupid zoning laws.

We're also working at putting up a greenhouse, which I am probably most excited about. We're going to "winter over" our chickens below the benches, as suggested in a book we're reading on portable chicken coops (Chicken Tractor, by Andy Lee and Patricia Foreman) to use the chickens' body heat to help in heating the greenhouse.

I consider the most essential first step in "going green" to be a subscription to Mother Earth News. You can learn a lot from people who have been doing it for many years (and they have a GREAT online subscription rate and automatic billing so you can save the cost of paper transactions with them)

on Feb 15, 2005

I consider the most essential first step in "going green" to be a subscription to Mother Earth News.

I've actually learned a lot from my Grandma.  She's been recycling before they had a term for it.  Old jars in any form were used for canning.  She composts food scraps for fertilizer for her garden (there's actually a real science to that), and she can reuse just about anything that she comes in contact with.

I plan to build a compost container this year to start putting scraps in for my garden.  I want to grow a bunch of organic veggies and can what we can't eat.  I wish that I lived far enough out that zoning wouldn't bother me, but unfortunately that's not the case, so I have to be careful how I build things.

My Mom just built a nice greenhouse out of old sliding glass doors and used windows.  She just had to buy the framing lumber and the roofing material (it's that semi-transparent thick plastic).  Even in the winter without heat, it stays pretty warm from the solar heat.  I'm sure having chickens in a greenhouse would keep it nice and warm.  Unfortunately, I can't raise Chickens.  I had a bad chicken experience as a child (which is also a reason that I can't eat Chicken) but that is a whole different story