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Published on March 31, 2005 By KarmaGirl In Politics

I love America, and I think that what we do is typically right.  However, there are things that happen that make me wonder if we do things in a "do as I say, not as I do" type fashion.

In another JU article: https://forums.joeuser.com/Forums.aspx?ForumID=120&AID=68063#530308  It was commented on how it is interesting to see how Americans were viewed in relation to the Vietnam war.  In a museum that they visited, they saw that America was viewed as "puppet masters" by the Vietnamese.  I was too young to know what happened in that war, but I still always wonder how the rest of the world views us.  Which makes me wonder how we are currently being viewed.

I have seen a few international articles that are calling us hypocrites.  It's not about the war that we are currently in- it's about what happened to Terri Schiavo.

We are telling the world that we need to treat everyone as equal.  We have stated that it is wrong that in other countries men basically "own" their wives and that it is wrong that they have the right to torture or kill their own wife........... Yet, for some reason, we allowed a man to legally starve his wife to death.

People will say "but, this is different!"  But, I am having a hard time seeing a clear distinction.  This man had total control over his wife's life, and he ended it by starvation.  People can say "she wasn't in pain", but how d we know?  Are we going to be pompous enough to claim that we know enough about the brain to be 100% certain?

I'm interested to know how our fellow bloggers around the world view this.


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on Mar 31, 2005
Of course America is hypocritical. We need only read current newspapers to see that. Tons of examples.
"Sadaam Hussein is a threat to world security". Well, he was armed and allied with the US in the 80's. The US supported Hussein to the extent of sharing spy sattelite intelligence with them. Hardly the actions of a concerned enemy. Remember after the end of the illegal war in Iraq, when Wolfowitz testily told the world that "foreigners should stay out of Iraq"? With a straight face and no comment by US mainstream media. They just took it. They're good at that. Or "countries with WMD are a threat to world security". Well, tell me one other nation who surpasses the US in WMD stockpiles, WMD research, and new WMD's to create. Look at William Cohen's comment about "an eco type of terrorism, whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes or volcanos remotely, through the use of electromagnetic waves". It's a spooky comment in light of the Sumatran Trench and the missing "S" waves. America officially says they're the guardians of freedom and democracy and that they hold life on a pedestal, you know, the 'all men are created equal' bull. Then Madeleine Albright says 500,000 dead children is a price the US is willing to pay in order to make Hussein pay for his deeds and come to heel. Not quite what Jesus would do. Then there's the laughable yet unmentioned-in-the-US-media issue of the US denouncing China's human rights record. I needn't get into that as it should be straightforward and obvious to everyone. Guantanamo, Abu-Graib, and clearly many others. The US says they're fighting a drug war at the same time as the CIA is importing the same drugs into the US. And allowing the poppies to thrive in Afghanistan. In fact, the Taliban had pretty much eradicated the poppy fields, only to come back after the US drove the Taliban into the hills. Britain and Europe can expect the largest influx of heroin ever because of it. Say what you want about the Taliban, but it's fact they were good at ridding their country of drugs.
on Mar 31, 2005
Hear, Hear! Well spoken by the originator and LW. Both get insightfuls from me. Rekki on the other hand gets a troll cookie.
on Mar 31, 2005

Hear, Hear! Well spoken by the originator and LW. Both get insightfuls from me. Rekki on the other hand gets a troll cookie.

That makes 2 then.  Hope he likes his pound of flesh.

on Mar 31, 2005
3 by drmiler
Thursday, March 31, 2005


Hear, Hear! Well spoken by the originator and LW. Both get insightfuls from me. Rekki on the other hand gets a troll cookie.


first goods to see yer name here doc, been missing you.


As a vietnam vet karma we were viewed around the world as wrong dooers in vietnam, why you ask? because of the liberals calling us baby killers, rapists and more, because of people like hanoijohn kerry and hanoijane fonda shouting from the roof tops, because of a liberal media beating the same one note drum over and over, america bad. everyone else good.
on Mar 31, 2005

I can only hope that these laws will be changed, and fast, lest her death be in vain.

I hope that you are right.  Being a Mom of a little girl, I can't even begin to imagine what Terri's parents went through.

on Mar 31, 2005
I can only hope that these laws will be changed, and fast, lest her death be in vain.

I hope that you are right. Being a Mom of a little girl, I can't even begin to imagine what Terri's parents went through.


Me either. I have two grown boys (sorry guys.....men)! If I was her father Michael would have to watch his back for the *rest* of "his life".
on Mar 31, 2005
3 by drmiler
Thursday, March 31, 2005


Hear, Hear! Well spoken by the originator and LW. Both get insightfuls from me. Rekki on the other hand gets a troll cookie.


first goods to see yer name here doc, been missing you.


As a vietnam vet karma we were viewed around the world as wrong dooers in vietnam, why you ask? because of the liberals calling us baby killers, rapists and more, because of people like hanoijohn kerry and hanoijane fonda shouting from the roof tops, because of a liberal media beating the same one note drum over and over, america bad. everyone else good.


I've been here and posting.....Where the heck you been? I ain't seen spit from you.
on Mar 31, 2005
Me either. I have two grown boys (sorry guys.....men)! If I was her father Michael would have to watch his back for the *rest* of "his life".


Me 3 either. I have 4, from 22 to 12. 2 Boys (19 and 12) and 2 Girls (17 and 22). I never want to outlive them, but if the case came up, I would never starve them to death. If their 'so-called' spouse tried it, they could lay in state right next to my baby.

Lest you think I would allow them to suffer. No, I would allow euthanasia, just not torture. Period.
on Mar 31, 2005
e either. I have two grown boys (sorry guys.....men)! If I was her father Michael would have to watch his back for the *rest* of "his life".


Me 3 either. I have 4, from 22 to 12. 2 Boys (19 and 12) and 2 Girls (17 and 22). I never want to outlive them, but if the case came up, I would never starve them to death. If their 'so-called' spouse tried it, they could lay in state right next to my baby.

Lest you think I would allow them to suffer. No, I would allow euthanasia, just not torture. Period.


Mine are 28 and 26. And before I let either one suffer OR starve, I would give them the injection myself. I just hope that I'm never faced with that decision! I'd do what was required and then check myself into a mental hospital.
on Mar 31, 2005
I've been here and posting.....Where the heck you been? I ain't seen spit from you.


I was taking a vacation from "moderateman"
on Mar 31, 2005
I've been here and posting.....Where the heck you been? I ain't seen spit from you.


I was taking a vacation from "moderateman"


SHAME on you!!! Don't you know vactions are not allowed?
on Mar 31, 2005
I don't see why Terri's Parents would not be afforded the condsideration of caring for their own child if it makes them happy. All we really have in life are our children. A friend told me that "you aint liven until you have something you are willing to die for" I am sad, very sad for the parents
on Mar 31, 2005
I don't see why Terri's Parents would not be afforded the condsideration of caring for their own child if it makes them happy. All we really have in life are our children. A friend told me that "you aint liven until you have something you are willing to die for" I am sad, very sad for the parents


Very true. And very well stated.
on Mar 31, 2005
Parents should never have to bury their children. it happens , now we will see how scumbag hubby treats terrys body.
on Mar 31, 2005
The law (and people) shows more compassion for a dog and its owner. Here the result can not be reversed. Where is the Country's heart?
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